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Warm Up/ Misses

Started by Philipn126 · around Aug 2004 · 20postsvBulletin 2004–05

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Philipn126date not saved · #1

i just threw a new distributor in my car and did a complete tune up about a month ago. when the engine is cool, it will run like none other, however when it warms up it starts to miss. sometimes it misses out pretty bad. i am thinking that the timing got advanced when i put in the new dizzy. any other ideas?

Joel07date not saved · #2

Usually timing won't make a difference in between being cold and warming up. If the timing is off, it'll be off all the time. If it's too advanced, you can usually tell because the starter will have a hard time cranking the motor over. Easiest way to tell is get a timing light and check.

Sounds like you've got a sensor going out somewhere. I'm not an expert in EFI at all, so that's where my help stops... Sorry... :kicknuts:

jimjamdate not saved · #3

Ive got the same problem with mine it gets real bad when warmed up, hows the gas consumtion??

Philipn126date not saved · #4

the gas consumption seems normal. it only misses when warmed up and when in acceleration.

gazelle_Power84date not saved · #5

I have same problem but it gose away then come's back it's wired.

Philipn126date not saved · #6

no clue

Kendate not saved · #7

A misfire can be caused by lack of spark, lack of fuel, lack of air, and lack of compression. Air and compression would be constant wether the car was cold or warm, and on a distributor ignition system, spark is also constant. However, on EFI, fuel changes with temperature. I'll have to agree with Joel that it's probably a sensor.

Just out of curosity, do you have all stock ignition components? I've dealt with a few vehicles where the stock coil was replaced with an aftermarket one. Stock coils sometimes only need 7-8 volts to work properly, whereas aftermarket ones usually need 12. If our cars have a ballast resistor(can't remember if they do) and you have a 12 volt coil on it, then when the coil heats up it would create enough resistance to cause a misfire. However, this is usually a more obvious problem, like the engine won't run at all when warm.

Joel07date not saved · #8

Might try a temp sensor, but I think usually the temp sensor makes it run bad when it's cold. These cars have two temp sensors both on the front part of the intake manifold. They're pretty cheap and fairly easy to replace, so it might be worth a shot...

Uglyoldnissandate not saved · #9

If your temp sender is screwed your car will (probably) run well cold and badly when hot because your ecu thinks the car is still cold and is trying to run it with the choke on. I know these cars don't have actual chokes but choke settings int the ecu. Wait till it gets hot and unplug your temp sensor, If your engine starts to run funny your sensor is OK but if nothing happens its probably cooked. Hope that helps.

gazelle_Power84date not saved · #10

unlyoldnissan, where about's is the temp sensor?

gazelle_Power84date not saved · #11
Ken
Just out of curosity, do you have all stock ignition components? {QUOTE]

Yes mine has all stock components.
Philipn126date not saved · #12

same here. stock ignition components

Philipn126date not saved · #13

im gonna throw in another ecu that i have. i wonder if that might solve it?

Philipn126date not saved · #14

i tried my other ecu and it made it worse. i did notice that when it missed, the tach dropped with it. could this be a sign that a coil is going bad? perhaps the coil that the tach is on?

gazelle_Power84date not saved · #15

give it a go,it's worth it. let's me know if work's out or not .

Philipn126date not saved · #16

i switched the coils and it made a big difference for the better. try it and let me know what happens.

gazelle_Power84date not saved · #17

will do,

Philipn126date not saved · #18

what if my timing is advanced so that when my engine is warmed up, the dizzy starts to over heat? this might cause it to detonate instead of miss like i thought. this cant be good.

red_devildate not saved · #19

I had a similar problem with mine, but it was more to do with the air flow sensor misbehaiving due to the 2 odd meters of intake piping. i had to tighten the coil in the sensor, and i shortened the piping which seemed to fix it! Be carefull with the coil if you decide to as its very touchy.

Philipn126date not saved · #20

i did make a cai and lengthen the maf wires. you think that this might be the cause??