Bad Clutch?

Started by Pigpen · Jul 9, 2010 · 14postsSMF 2010–26

PigpenJul 9, 2010, 1:48 am · #1

ok i just got my car and im trying to fix what i think is the clutch, when i try to put it into gear it wont go in and it slowly trys to takes off, at first i though it was the slave cylinder sticking and i replaced it but it still does it just not as bad!
I think its the clutch going out but i dont know for sure and i dont want to buy a clutch and find out i didnt need one like i did with the slave.

xxstreetbikesxxJul 9, 2010, 2:02 am · #2

Rome11sixok i just got my car and im trying to fix what i think is the clutch, when i try to put it into gear it wont go in and it slowly trys to takes off, at first i though it was the slave cylinder sticking and i replaced it but it still does it just not as bad!
I think its the clutch going out but i dont know for sure and i dont want to buy a clutch and find out i didnt need one like i did with the slave.

Same thing happened to my buddys camaro. nothing major.
Its not dissengaging all of the way. You just need to adjust it.

PigpenJul 9, 2010, 5:05 am · #3

xxstreetbikesxxSame thing happened to my buddys camaro. nothing major.
Its not dissengaging all of the way. You just need to adjust it.

see thats what i thought but i did adjust it, maybe need to adjust it more!

JonBJul 9, 2010, 5:31 am · #4

Might be the clutch master cylinder or the dampener. Many just remove the dampener.

I've had to replace both the master and the clutch cylinders over the years, and adjust to.

KustamogenJul 9, 2010, 6:08 am · #5

does removing the dampener stiffen things up?!?!

I had a fair bit taken off my flywheel and I think due to that my clutch engages way too high and I dont like it.....probably not much I can do about it but a stiffer feeling would be cool haha

JonBJul 9, 2010, 6:25 am · #6

Kustamogendoes removing the dampener stiffen things up?!?!

I had a fair bit taken off my flywheel and I think due to that my clutch engages way too high and I dont like it.....probably not much I can do about it but a stiffer feeling would be cool haha

Honestly, I can't remember, It's been so long since I used the dampener. It's supposed to. I won't say that my clutch is hard to use with out it.

If the rod one the clutch pedal can do no more for your high engagement, the only other thing I can think to do is mod the fork itself or the slave cylinder push rod.

Phisherman09Jul 9, 2010, 2:17 pm · #7

Kustamogendoes removing the dampener stiffen things up?!?!

I had a fair bit taken off my flywheel and I think due to that my clutch engages way too high and I dont like it.....probably not much I can do about it but a stiffer feeling would be cool haha

yes. it stiffens it up quite a bit (no homo)

and no, you cant adjust a hyrdraulic clutch. could be a sticking master,or if theres excessive air in the sytem it will do it as well.

JonBJul 9, 2010, 3:52 pm · #8

The push rod on the the clutch pedal itself is threaded for adjustment.

cory matthewsJul 9, 2010, 8:15 pm · #9

^^^^What he said. Of course you can and must adjust a hydraulic clutch. You can damage your tranny if its not adjusted within spec.
In my travels I've found that it's best to stick to the factory slave pushrod. If you need more adjustment it's usually because your master cylinder or slave cylinder is in need of replacement, or you may need to raise the pivot point of the clutch fork.
Sounds like you need to bring that engagement point up.

turbo-s12Jul 10, 2010, 3:45 am · #10

Kustamogendoes removing the dampener stiffen things up?!?!

I had a fair bit taken off my flywheel and I think due to that my clutch engages way too high and I dont like it.....probably not much I can do about it but a stiffer feeling would be cool haha

mines removed and id say theres a diference definetly stiffer i like!

cory matthewsJul 10, 2010, 6:09 am · #11

turbo-s12mines removed and id say theres a diference definetly stiffer i like!

Looks like I have to do this then! I haven't had my car too long and although it shifts smoothly the car has the softest clutch I've ever felt. A new hydraulic hose and adjustment are in order though.

datzenmikeJul 14, 2010, 11:51 pm · #12

The adjustment on the peddle/clutch master cylinder is only for adjusting the peddle free play. It's not for setting the clutch engagement point. If you adjust tighter, the piston in the master does not fully return to it's rest position and the fluid that was pushed down the line to the slave cannot fully return to the master reservoir. Residual pressure will remain in the system slowly building with each use until the clutch is fully disengaged and stays that way. I've seen this, and the owner had to open the slave bleeder and let off the hydraulic pressure to get the clutch arm to return. Incorrect setting of the free play was the cause after replacing the master.

Fill the master and keep it full. Pump peddle several times and hold while someone opens the slave bleeder. Close bleeder and release clutch. Repeat until all air is expelled.

PigpenJul 29, 2010, 10:30 pm · #13

its weird cause the other day it shifted fine and then i turned the car off at the store came back and it wouldn't go into gear or shift well and i would have to RPM shift it.

i am doing a ka24 swap and and doing the bellhousing swap to so i hope that might fix it cause i think the prob is the pressure plate!

datzenmikeAug 17, 2010, 3:44 am · #14

Did you even check you master to see if the fluid was low????

Did you try bleeding any air out of the system????

These are cheap easy things to do first to help isolate the problem.

Why is it when someone forgets to keep their master full and gets air in the hydraulic system they find it so much easier to say. "Guess it's time to do a KA swap" ????