Mail Order Jdm Ca18det

hey i was loking at jdm engines online like ebay and jdm engine sites they claim 30000 on the engine and yeah has anyone purchased one of these are they really ok? thanks

It all depends on there warranty and return policy. Plan to do a compression test as soon as you get it.

also talk to iggy there is a company he got his from that he says don't use I don't remember the name tho that's why I say ask him...

Ca18det's are getting harder and harder to find.

true dat lol when i was searching for some stuff earlier this year I could find dick when it came to the ca...

Ca is not plentiful as the Sr but I have two shops that have 3 or more in stk

EightySix200SXCa is not plentiful as the Sr but I have two shops that have 3 or more in stk

I'm pretty sure there's been a couple people around here that've dealt with my local importer JDMsource.ca. From my experience, they are stand up guys that bring in what you could say are quality JDM engines. That does not imply they are going to be fresh, however everyone including myself had very little in terms of maintenance prior to dropping their engine in. I changed the water pump, seals, and timing belt which is expected for something that's sat dry for years on end, the fundamental components were in working order which eased my worries.
Check them out and hope that helps

I got mine from Jarco Inc.  They were only doing half cuts at the time....not sure what they are selling now, but great company, no probs with my engine......3 years now.  Might be worth giving them a call

http://www.jarcoinc.com

EightySix200SXCa is not plentiful as the Sr but I have two shops that have 3 or more in stk

The mileage should be between 30-60k if it's a jdm motor.

Draconis The mileage should be between 30-60k if it's a jdm motor.

brewster240thats complete bs.

stay away from EBAY!!!

always always call the people directly.  If they cant take ur call, speak english, and be professional then fuck them

motorset gonna be around 1200+ship for a decent one.  some places a little more and some a little less.  its always a bit of a crap shoot since its a rather old used engine but what ur really payin for is how complete the swap is and how professional the people are.  Mine was waaaay incomplete and seriously looked like other engines and shit had been dropped right on top of it.  Oh and get specific info on how its gonna be shipped.  palette is the usual but its risky imo.  crated is best.  GL

brewster240thats complete bs.

KeithYeah..I may have to agree.  I know my front clip had I think 80,000 km on the odometer when I got it....not sure what that converts to in mileage, but I bet it's more than 30k

nothing you posted is true. its a generic farce, not a rule.

so by law does that include track cars? lOL

listen david, hes a member of foreign forums, he knows everything.

For track cars David, that would be different as is in the US.  These are in relation to cars that are driven by the public.  If you get an engine from a track car, then I know nothing about them and am sure nothing I say is relevant.  Would be cool though to get a track car's engine in a way.  Too bad if you did get one, it would more than likely be really expensive and probably blown.    But get one!  You can be the first S12 to have an actual track prepped engine.  Would be interesting to see what stuff you get with the engine or how built it is.

To clarify on the generic rule I mentioned, here is some supporting information.

Please note that I did note that the cars are sent in to check the engine and other things are in good working order to meet gov. standards.  Also, the emissions is part of the situation but not the complete reason as I looked more into it.  But, what I did say is still decently valid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor-vehicle...ion_%28Japan%29
 - part of the reason as to the low mileage on motors is due to the cost of the tests and such.  As the car gets older, the cost goes up.  With the deprecation rate, it can be easier to get rid of the car and purchase a new one.

*edit: another site supporting... basically the same as the mag.
http://japaneseengines.wordpress.com/2009/...ve-low-mileage/
 - Also talked with a Canuk who deals with importers and such.  Often times the motors that are shipped from Japan have less than 100k on the tach is due to the tune up.  At 100k, they need to redo the timing belt, normal stuff.  But when they do that, they also need to pay for an in depth inspection that costs quite a bit... something like $6-10k US when all the costs are factored in.  It's a bit much.




So I can say that I only had part of the reason as to why.  But the generic rule of the 30-60k is reasonable when using as a guideline and if it was a jdm engine with more distance on the engine, it would have been overhauled or some amount of maintenance of some form.  And it is quite common to have motors being shipped from Australia and Canada and sold in the US.  From both countries, they on average will have higher mileage than those from Japan.

ha i remember reading that at walmart.  its funny to me cuz i rarely read car mags.

btw every nissan engine I've had apart was stamped on the cam caps from the factory.  IIRC honda as well.  super helpful! thx japanese engineers!

dont believe everything you read, or what someone who is trying to sell you a used engine they dont know anything about, is trying to sell you.

yes, it is expensive to own an older car in japan, that doesnt mean any of them were overhauled.

Yes, but you cannot simply dismiss because you have doubts.  But when there is at least a basic trend that all agree with, and you read it from several sources, then there is some thread of truth.  And you may think I just believe everything, but I do question and call up companies directly, so please dont assume.  I have supplied my statement with information.  If you have any information to support your opinion, it would be a great help.

I have seen several engines with and without stamps.  My CA18DET lacked the stamps and the RB20 did.  It all varies I guess.

your info is from a crappy import mag who got thier info from engine places trying to sell engines.

brewster240your info is from a crappy import mag who got thier info from engine places trying to sell engines.

i disagree brewster brought a lot of solid information and facts to the table...and he didnt quote wikipedia...

sam31183i disagree brewster brought a lot of solid information and facts to the table...and he didnt quote wikipedia...

Let skeptics be skeptics, it is easy to sit back and call BS on all fronts. Draconis has supplied valid points, and tried to support his argument as best he can. I for one agree with him, but have an 'extension' to add:

I think some important points to be noted are that not all "JDM" motors originate from Japan. Unfortunately there is a rising amount of high(er) mileage motors originating from other countries such as the UK, Australia, China, etc. What ends up happening is the whole supply chain gets sullied. More reputable shops begin selling off 'write off' motors with poor compression numbers, leaking seals, or motors that have been returned by dis-satisfied customers. Opportunistic companies purchase these motors which should have been deemed CORE motors and then try to re-sell them.

You always gamble when buying a used motor, it doesn't need to be an imported motor either, it is just always a gamble. Cosmetic damage is almost unavoidable - they pack the shipping containers TO THE HILLS with these things (quite impressive, actually).

One other thing to be aware of is that sketchy motor import companies are being formed and dissolved almost on a weekly basis (much like the supplement industry).. They will change names and use whatever means necessary to sell you their sweet sweet crack.. I mean shitty motor..

Stick with the reputable ones, if you are in Canada these include:

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/
http://www.japanmotorimport.com/
http://www.teknotik.com/home.php

Cheers.

-Dan

Drconis, gavin also posted what you said on our local forum good read new alot of it already. Also a exporter i know of that also live in japan has backed up the same info that draconis posted. It is quite expensive to drive in japan, there is so many things that you have to pay for.

Also a few more reputable JDM engine sellers for canada
Autodream, very good with there return policy. My buddy bought a SR swap and turned out to be junk.
He told them brought back his SR and they gave him another and it runs awesome
http://www.403drift.com/home.asp
and
http://www.jdmsource.ca/v2/default.asp

go do a search for "shaken" which is based on age of the car, in years.

find something from japan, not engine people trying to sell engines, that says cars are taxed on mileage.

mileage =/= age

Automobile Inspection, shaken

What is shaken? (???

It's a mandatory vehicle inspection check that you must perform on your car. If you do not perform an inspection on your car, your car cannot be driven. New cars will not need an inspection until the car is 3 years old. For older cars, it needs to be done every 2 years.

When the shaken inspection is being performed, your car may be subject to repairs to keep the car in good shape. The shaken test checks exhaust emissions, speedometer calibration, tires, lights and indicators, oil leaks, brakes etc.

It can get very expensive. Most likely it will cost more than 30,000 yen. While shaken is expensive, it does keep your car in good working condition and you will less likely have breakdowns. As the car gets older, the cost of shaken becomes more expensive.

In Japan, you don't see many old cars on the road. Most people prefer to own new cars, but with the downturn in the economy, many people are not buying new cars as often as they once did.
Taxes

There are three taxes you should be aware of when you own an automobile in Japan. They are:

    1) Car Tax - The owner of a car is taxed every year on April 1. The tax amount is decided by the size of the engine displacement and the purpose of the car's use.
    2) Car Weight Tax - When your car goes through the mandatory automobile inspection, tax is charged according to the weight of the car. You have to pay the tax at the time of registration, and when you have a compulsory automobile inspection.
    3) Car Acquisition Tax - Regardless of whether the car is new or second-hand, you will be charged this tax when you buy a car. You have to pay the tax when you register the car.

Crazy. Replace 3 years with 4 and we got EXACTLY the same rules over here.

Out of curiosity, why didnt you supply the source?  I did find it:
http://www.gotjapan.com/living/owning_a_car.php
And all you really did as say more of what was stated before, but just not as specific for a break down.  But thanks for adding another source that supports the other sources.

And no one said that it was based on mileage that I'm aware of.  It just so happens that an average mileage can be found when importing an engine of Japanese origin due to the laws and the costs that accompany it.  The reason why mileage comes up as our way of a guideline is because when importing/buying a motor, that's all one cares about.  The first questions we have is about the mileage then we go to the year typically.  Even when buying a car domestically.  We concern ourselves with the mileage quite a bit.

Just rebuild it or overhaul it... then you will have basically a 0 mile engine

ShermerJust rebuild it or overhaul it... then you will have basically a 0 mile engine

Draconis Out of curiosity, why didnt you supply the source?  I did find it:
 

Xano
He didnt quote or refer to ANYTHING, so there for, his information is not "solid" at all.  Wikipedia and a magazine article are more than Nothing at all.  Dont get me wrong, they really arent good sources necessarily, but yeah, something vs nothing.

brewster240cause i dont really care that much anymore. after over 10 years of dealing with this stuff and seeing the same bogus things over and over, backed up by the same sources, its just redundant, especially when you know people who live/lived in japan and tell you what really is the deal. that wasnt my source, it was just one google turned up quick.

A place over here by work tried to charge 1800 for a JDMCA18DET, I was like hell no!
Anybody know any good places in California to get one?