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JZ S12 BUILD, RIP 2012

Started by David B · May 28, 2008 · 1673postsSMF 2010–26

FrankDec 1, 2009, 2:46 am · #1101

use a punche to hammer the head counterclockwise, thats the real way to do it
if you don't care about them you can just drill the heads off, it's a pretty soft material.
The keyswitch from my 71 datsun 510 is pretty similar to a s13 one ... you can get a new one at the scrapyard for peanuts

However i would remove it if you intend to race the car, these thing can go wrong anytime and can really scare the shit out of you

here's a funny reminder ahah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ)

brewster240Dec 1, 2009, 3:35 am · #1102

yes david you could spin them out with a screwdriver or chizel like the others said.

once you brake the tension off them they will screw right out.

Blue84coupeDec 15, 2009, 3:46 am · #1103

I just stumbled across your car on speed hunters

Here! (http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/12/09/driver-blog-gt-gt-vaughn-gittin-jr-100-drifters-of-december.aspx)

David BDec 15, 2009, 3:50 am · #1104

orrly? i know. vaughn came up to me and shook my hand, and said i drove the shit out of my car, and was asking wtf engine and what car is it, i told him a izuzu with a ranger motor i hope he tookit as a joke

IggyEGuanaDec 15, 2009, 6:14 am · #1105

right the fuck on david!!  u make me feel like a tool lol. but u deserve it cuz u work ur ass off for drift

David BDec 22, 2009, 7:33 am · #1106

no more ka-t

remember that wrecked s13? im buying that sr20 soon, hes going s15 sr. price im paying is 1k through some payments

ill be selling the dohc apart with the gasket kit, turbo manifold, and clutch i have

im going to start prepping the car tonight, pulling it apart. fenders, bumpers, all coming off.

David BDec 22, 2009, 10:38 am · #1107

blah blah

im tired. ill do the rest tomorrow maybe

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dwardleDec 22, 2009, 4:28 pm · #1108

running the FMIC in front of your rad is no problem, many drive cars do it as well as several of my friends.  The air passes through and is still cool for the rad.

David BDec 22, 2009, 9:46 pm · #1109

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pretty much done. im working today spent my lunch break, everythings disconnected. when i get off work im gonna yank it out and get started

nismologistDec 23, 2009, 12:41 am · #1110

whats to become of the ka? will it become a yard anchor?

David BDec 23, 2009, 2:02 am · #1111
nismologistwhats to become of the ka? will it become a yard anchor?


i wanna cut the sohc ka headers, it has a beefy flange. then cut my xs power dohc turbo manifold. then make it work. then have the sohc ka as a small build project for the future
Drft-s12Dec 23, 2009, 2:06 am · #1112

SR is going to be beast!!!! Way better than that truck engine lol.....Cant wait to see it finished and you tearing up them tires

IggyEGuanaDec 23, 2009, 5:16 am · #1113

wtf did u do

seishukuDec 23, 2009, 5:27 am · #1114

I'm gonna guess that something was rubbing while he was towing the car. lol

brewster240Dec 23, 2009, 5:44 am · #1115

do it to it!!

D-sport S12Dec 23, 2009, 8:39 am · #1116

SR s12's are quite fun

sideways_s12Dec 23, 2009, 10:59 am · #1117

you willing to sell that ka de mani if so how much?

David BDec 23, 2009, 10:53 pm · #1118

we can talk about it later

lots of cleaning to do
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ClutchKick86Dec 23, 2009, 11:01 pm · #1119

Holy Crap. i just read through this from page 1.
i gotta say, you have come a loooong way since the beginning.
cant wait to see the SR in there. you give me hope to someday finally tear into my car.
just out of curiousity, how well did the CA20E slide the car around? mine seems..increadibly underpowered and incapable.

vegasS12Dec 23, 2009, 11:08 pm · #1120
ClutchKick86Holy Crap. i just read through this from page 1.
i gotta say, you have come a loooong way since the beginning.
cant wait to see the SR in there. you give me hope to someday finally tear into my car.
just out of curiousity, how well did the CA20E slide the car around? mine seems..increadibly underpowered and incapable.
when mine ran good it had enough to get the job done haha
David BDec 24, 2009, 1:06 am · #1121

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XanoDec 24, 2009, 1:12 am · #1122

The bay looks good man.

I need to get me an engine hoist so a full cleanup like that.

David BDec 24, 2009, 1:42 am · #1123


3 coats, some cool base coat, some glittery stuff. then a clear coat tomorrow when i pick it up

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of course, blue!
ArroDec 24, 2009, 2:43 am · #1124

K been neglecting your thread until tonight, just been busy...

Pro's: Repainting the engine bay. Looks like it's coming along good.

Con's: I like KA's. I like SR's. I don't like a car with an identity crisis. Pick and engine platform and STICK with it for a change, so you can actually finish it

I don't doubt you can do it from a technical standpoint, but are you committed to a plan now?

Edit: Oh and BTW, you're gonna want to upgrade to an aftermarket radiator, the S12 one is "ok", but you're drifting so you don't get as good an airflow to begin with, and the biggie FMIC will further reduce the stock radiator's effectiveness. Mishimoto is your friend.

sam31183Dec 24, 2009, 6:55 am · #1125

I remember when david first got the kae....he said he was going to try to kill it...but that engine took all the abuse david could throw at it. That makes me feel better about my kade.

David BDec 24, 2009, 6:58 am · #1126
ArroK been neglecting your thread until tonight, just been busy...

Pro's: Repainting the engine bay. Looks like it's coming along good.

Con's: I like KA's. I like SR's. I don't like a car with an identity crisis. Pick and engine platform and STICK with it for a change, so you can actually finish it

I don't doubt you can do it from a technical standpoint, but are you committed to a plan now?

Edit: Oh and BTW, you're gonna want to upgrade to an aftermarket radiator, the S12 one is "ok", but you're drifting so you don't get as good an airflow to begin with, and the biggie FMIC will further reduce the stock radiator's effectiveness. Mishimoto is your friend.


i have a sr20 koyo radiator hooked up to the sohc ka lol.... ill be using that for the sr

David BDec 24, 2009, 7:47 am · #1127

note for arro

see? sr koyo

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EternalSwapDec 26, 2009, 9:14 pm · #1128

wtf
i fly away for a week with no Internet
suddenly, david has a fucking sr and didnt even tell me!

what a dick

a tin pan alleyDec 29, 2009, 11:29 pm · #1129

can we get some more pictures of this crazy-ass headlight/grille setup you're running now?

David BDec 29, 2009, 11:32 pm · #1130
a tin pan alleycan we get some more pictures of this crazy-ass headlight/grille setup you're running now?


lol i will sometime gotta figure out how this is gonna work because my i/c piping is gonna be where the headlights are

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a tin pan alleyDec 29, 2009, 11:40 pm · #1131
David Blol i will sometime gotta figure out how this is gonna work because my i/c piping is gonna be where the headlights are

ruh-roh!

i'm sure you'll figure it out.
David BDec 29, 2009, 11:53 pm · #1132

doppeee. the stock bracket for the hood latch was able to fit in with a spacer at the bottom. its nice and rigid. once i weld the top back init will be just as strong as oem. fitment is fucking perfect and it all unbolts

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brewster240Dec 30, 2009, 12:52 am · #1133

i have the m30 intercooler setup just like that.

David BDec 30, 2009, 1:33 am · #1134
brewster240i have the m30 intercooler setup just like that.

i like it nice and high. so i dont have to buy a i/c everytime i hit a curb

heres some more progress

welded 2 sockets to my tension rod brackets, or whatever there called

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/100_3934.jpg)

and the rubbers on the end of the koyos fits the husky 11/16's socket good
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rad sits a 1/2 inch higher, clearence on the hood is close. might have to clut some of the support out here
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no modification of bumper support or anything. feels good. might get someone to weld me up some tubing to replace the crash bar for air flow. but for now this will work
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my ghetto hood latch
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NissanNateDec 30, 2009, 2:30 am · #1135

David i just have to say freaking awesome on the socket idea lol. Looking really good, how much longer until you put the motor in?

David BDec 30, 2009, 2:59 am · #1136
NissanNateDavid i just have to say freaking awesome on the socket idea lol. Looking really good, how much longer until you put the motor in?

even if someone doesnt have a welder they can just run a bolt through it

the motor goes in... not sure.

i have the money, the sr is in my garage. i just gotta change the rear main seal, some trans seals/bearings. and throw it in.

i might add my freddy oil pan too
seishukuDec 30, 2009, 5:33 am · #1137

Hopefully that intercooler has a good design, it's gonna take FOREVER to fill that monster.

Especially with a stock T25.

IggyEGuanaDec 30, 2009, 5:40 am · #1138

shoulda stitch welded the bay and filled all the frame with foam

run it no headlights or grill.  cut the bumber and support and put a bar across.  make it flush with the front of the bumper.

RedneckDec 30, 2009, 5:49 am · #1139

I'm kinda sad he ditched out on the kade-t build. I think for drifting the ka-t's are great because of the prodigious amounts of torque they produce. Not to say an sr20 won't get the job done. And yeah that is a big intercooler haha.

ArroDec 30, 2009, 8:19 am · #1140
seishukuHopefully that intercooler has a good design, it's gonna take FOREVER to fill that monster.

Especially with a stock T25.

All the more reason to upgrade to a T28 or Egay tubular mani+T3.

RedneckI'm kinda sad he ditched out on the kade-t build. I think for drifting the ka-t's are great because of the prodigious amounts of torque they produce. Not to say an sr20 won't get the job done. And yeah that is a big intercooler haha.

Yeah that was kinda what I was gettin at earlier. But it looks like he's doing it right.
NissanNateDec 30, 2009, 8:39 am · #1141
seishukuHopefully that intercooler has a good design, it's gonna take FOREVER to fill that monster.

Especially with a stock T25.
Actually i run a larger intercooler than that on my s14,  SR turbo fills it up to 13psi at 3.7k rpm so i wouldn't worry about it(don't think there is THAT big of a difference between s13 and s14 turbo's). Oil pan is a good idea because the 3.4 quarts it takes could get hot fast, i would suggest a cx racing oil cooler also there cheap and iv purchased a few of there cooling products off ebay as well as some of my friends. all of us have gotten great products! id say worry about making that motor last, get a diff turbo later blow the fuc* out of the one you got first by drifting the shit out of it
ArroDec 30, 2009, 8:45 am · #1142

It's not a good idea, maybe you're getting 13 psi signal in the boost gauge line, but you're overspinning your tiny T25 to do it, meaning you are heating up the air a lot.... so the big IC is only about as effective as a medium or smaller IC.

Also, are we talking T25 or T25G? there's a noticable difference in the flow map for each.

tommyDec 30, 2009, 2:49 pm · #1143
David Bi have a t28

Why does this guy always has something up his sleeve... it's freaking me out!

LOL good build buddy trash this thing around and make us proud of you!!!
seishukuDec 30, 2009, 10:01 pm · #1144

Even with a T28 I still wouldn't use that big of an intercooler, there's a point when it's just too big. Usually when it starts to eclipse the radiator, IMO.

I could see that if say, you were going to be running a Super 60 at 1bar, but not a T2 flanged turbo.

But hey, whatever, it's your car!

DjayS12Dec 30, 2009, 10:14 pm · #1145

David, i was looking at your I/C issue and maybe you could flip it over so you have the piping in the bottom?

It will mean slightly longer piping but at least you can have headlight with it!

Also i gotta admit, at the beginning your car was super ghetto but you keep making it better and better! keep the good work!

s12godDec 30, 2009, 10:18 pm · #1146

i agree with djs12 flip it thats how i ran mine on my s13.

djs12 i love that coupe. clean as f*ck.

ArroDec 31, 2009, 12:52 am · #1147

Ok so a T28 is better, yes, but I think Matt is onto something here... this is a BIG IC. The kind you typically see on drag-tuned turbocars running big, laggy turbos that have violent engagement at peak boost. A T28's prime advantage is spool, with still decent flow, but would be better paired with something a third less smaller than this IC here, or even half as big.

David, you might want to gather more opinions on this, maybe even talk to Turbonetics (a phonecall to those guys is often very enlightening), and see what you think after that, before you start fabbing. You might have to choose between either your current T28 and a *different* intercooler, or this big intecooler with aa different turbo and T3 flanged Egay manifold like I suggested above.

David BDec 31, 2009, 4:31 am · #1148

hey it will start the car. ill think about i/c's later this one was cheap

i cant flip the i/c over... the piping would hit the brackets for the crash support unless i relocat that

a tin pan alleyDec 31, 2009, 5:47 am · #1149

what's going on over there?

edit: s14 headlight?

David BDec 31, 2009, 6:46 am · #1150
a tin pan alleywhat's going on over there?

edit: s14 headlight?

had a random one i just wanted to fit. but probally wont

omg the chassis harness weighs like a astronimical 25 pounds

im going to be making a simple chassis harness, with the essentials for running the motor, and working headlights/brakelights. ill keep it clean too

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