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JZ S12 BUILD, RIP 2012

Started by David B · May 28, 2008 · 1673postsSMF 2010–26

seishukuFeb 13, 2009, 4:41 am · #451

You know that "brace" isn't bracing anything, right? Shocks only go up and down, they don't get any side load.

If you really want it to do something, take it out and save some weight!

David BFeb 13, 2009, 4:50 am · #452

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read before you post

nismologistFeb 13, 2009, 5:59 am · #453

if it really doesnt brace anything then why do they sell rear strut tower bars?

IggyEGuanaFeb 13, 2009, 6:35 am · #454

Cuz the cars they sell em for have rear struts

we dont

nismologistFeb 13, 2009, 6:38 am · #455

...do you mean coilovers?or do solid axle cars only have springs or something?

EternalSwapFeb 13, 2009, 7:20 am · #456

His is a shock tower bar
Youre thinking of strut tower bars

XanoFeb 13, 2009, 11:20 am · #457

just to clarify this for anyone who hasn't seen it.

The bar is for his harness...thats more or less it.

brewster240Feb 13, 2009, 1:42 pm · #458
seishukuYou know that "brace" isn't bracing anything, right? Shocks only go up and down, they don't get any side load.


you would think so, and you would be wrong.

nismologistif it really doesnt brace anything then why do they sell rear strut tower bars?

cause people will buy them. people will buy anything.

EternalSwapHis is a shock tower bar
Youre thinking of strut tower bars

same difference.

Xanojust to clarify this for anyone who hasn't seen it.

The bar is for his harness...thats more or less it.

i would not want that being anywhere nere my car, let alone relying on it for a safety device.

dave, you've been doing good so far, dont start doing hacker ass shit like that. give that back to your dad and have someone make you a proper harness bar or get a simple 4 point rollbar put in which will be even better.
XanoFeb 13, 2009, 5:25 pm · #459
brewster240dave, you've been doing good so far, dont start doing hacker ass shit like that. give that back to your dad and have someone make you a proper harness bar or get a simple 4 point rollbar put in which will be even better.
agreed, i had to point that that was what he was using it for though, since a few other people seemed to not see.

you'd be better off grinding down spots in the car and welding round tubing to the pillar behind the door, about right below the window area.  though i suppose then you run the risk of that one bar bending into a V shape in the case of a side collision and V'ing itself right through you....though that could be an issue with the current bar too....
David BFeb 13, 2009, 8:33 pm · #460

okay then i guess ill be figureing out another way

can someone explain why that bar bolted to my strut towers are not good enough?

LeegamerFeb 13, 2009, 8:53 pm · #461

(http://www.lokarmotorsports.com/images/harnessbar_app_web.jpg)

Here's a "proper"  harness bar.  I don't see any real problems with yours for now, since you're building this on a budget.  It does look like it might be kind of far back from the seat, but I've never used a racing harness, so I really don't know how much of a difference it would make.

seishukuFeb 13, 2009, 11:16 pm · #462
David Bokay then i guess ill be figureing out another way
can someone explain why that bar bolted to my strut towers are not good enough?
Because if you use it for a harness bar and if you front-end crash, it's going to pop those 8MM shock studs right clean off and you'll go flying through the windshield.

You'd even be better off using the rear seat belt bolt in areas, those are at least designed for seat belt stress. Though then you'd run a risk of a compressed spine, because the shoulder straps will pull down on your shoulders when your body moves forward.

And yea, I didn't read and see that you want to use it for a harness bar, but if I were a tech inspector, I would never let that pass, it's just a dumb idea.
David BFeb 13, 2009, 11:46 pm · #463

okay well we can weld a sepereate pipe that goes to the perches by the strut tower, thats connected to the frame rail

bluke1Feb 14, 2009, 12:36 am · #464

good idea, get your welder friend to make it structurally sound. your idea was good, but the execution lacked. remember that safety items MUST be safe!

David BFeb 20, 2009, 2:13 am · #465

my garage is a SR whore
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IggyEGuanaFeb 20, 2009, 6:27 am · #466

Cool

Tell them they are lame..
Alum rads with clutch fans
lol
They can afford baller ass SRs and alum rads but an electric fan is just too much ha

David BFeb 20, 2009, 6:29 am · #467

i can buy cigarettes and porno and lottery tickets today

IggyEGuanaCool

Tell them they are lame..
Alum rads with clutch fans
lol
They can afford baller ass SRs and alum rads but an electric fan is just too much ha


lol i might join them, also in the garage
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Phisherman09Feb 20, 2009, 6:31 am · #468
David Bi can buy cigarettes and porno and lottery tickets today

it dont get any better than that
David BFeb 21, 2009, 10:15 pm · #469

woah, car washed for the first time in like 7 months

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EternalSwapFeb 22, 2009, 5:24 am · #470

Lookin good David!

IggyEGuanaFeb 23, 2009, 1:43 am · #471

pop that dent foo

easy-peezy

nismologistFeb 23, 2009, 4:17 am · #472

looks really good.those wheels are b-b-b-bad.

200sxkitcarFeb 23, 2009, 4:52 am · #473

god damn.  slide it, and make us proud man!

looks great!

tell your friends to hook me up with an sr.  i've got 25 bucks.

SprockCapnFeb 23, 2009, 7:08 pm · #474
200sxkitcargod damn.  slide it, and make us proud man!

looks great!

tell your friends to hook me up with an sr.  i've got 25 bucks.

Me too. I'll double sterlings offer and make it 50!!!  

It look's good. For sure remove the dent. It looks like a pretty easy one to get rid of.
David BFeb 25, 2009, 11:51 pm · #475

that dent? you mean those dents!

day time damage pictures

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im getting sick of this car not starting, i have not driven this car ever. EVER. i really need someone to please come help me, someone with SOHC ka knowledge. i am slowly slipping away from this bullshit
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Nick_WFeb 26, 2009, 2:20 am · #476

You're doing good man!
Just think, a year ago you didn't no anything about this car, and look how much you've gotten done

David BFeb 26, 2009, 4:08 am · #477

ive gotten nothing done until i get the car at 130 hp running first

SprockCapnFeb 26, 2009, 5:27 am · #478

Oh. I guess I need to pay better attention! I was thinking if this dent.... Not all those dents covering the whole side of your car!    That aint gonna be fun if you were to fix them.

David B
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David BMar 8, 2009, 2:13 pm · #479

okay not getting too much progress on the gray hatch i basically malleted out the bigger dents but most of those smaller dents even if i do mallet them out the pop out periodicly as im working somewhere else off the car

got rid of some pointless material in the rear, ill be eventually taking everything off the car i dont really care much anymore lol door panels etc.

i might leave the back seat though, because i travel with people alot in the car

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yes i did brush on exterior house paint. its flat so when it dries it will look flatter its still wet

i dunno why but the damaged body is growing on me, as long as i dont have HUGE ass dents and the fact i have a whole nother clean car just makes it scream to do some upcoming rally events

David BMar 8, 2009, 3:23 pm · #480

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so fast... lol

SprockCapnMar 8, 2009, 5:39 pm · #481
David B
David BMar 8, 2009, 6:27 pm · #482

LOL, dude i keep that knife in my toolbox i bring to events

and ANYONE that sees that always mentions it, or if its  on the floor of my car in a pic when i was using it everyone mentions it! why!

stainless steel knife with aluminum base = win

even has a compass and storage compartment

i cut the carpet with it

SprockCapnMar 9, 2009, 4:16 am · #483
David BLOL, dude i keep that knife in my toolbox i bring to events

and ANYONE that sees that always mentions it, or if its  on the floor of my car in a pic when i was using it everyone mentions it! why!

stainless steel knife with aluminum base = win

even has a compass and storage compartment

i cut the carpet with it

Nice. I just thought it was funny. It seems like quite the knife for cutting the carpet   Whatever works, Right?
David BMar 10, 2009, 1:13 pm · #484

okay i guess i had the spark plugs wrong, sid redid them, and now when i turn the engine over it is so close, i can like feel it catching like it sounds so much smoother as its turning over,

i do get backfire but very less often, its more of the car going clug clug clug in a good way

then i tried starting fluid, and had a backfire out the intake, and had to put the fire out lol

brewster240Mar 10, 2009, 1:22 pm · #485

did you try starting it with starter fluid?

David BMar 10, 2009, 1:28 pm · #486

yes, that was my last post lol

TalkingGoatsMar 10, 2009, 1:33 pm · #487

Have you thought of welding a bar in between the strut towers for a harness bar? Can we use S13 harness bars?

David BMar 10, 2009, 1:38 pm · #488

yea see where the clip, for the rear seats are, i figure that perch would be strong enough, around that area, to just have my friend weld something it

id like 2 gget the car started first though lol

silvia loveMar 10, 2009, 7:42 pm · #489

if you got flames coming out of your intake, your timing is too far advanced. i noticed in your picture, your maf is like 3 inches away from the throttle body. NO GOOD. it needs at LEAST 18 inches. that could be your problem. make sure your fuel lines are correct.

EternalSwapMar 11, 2009, 7:30 am · #490
silvia loveit needs at LEAST 18 inches.
Giggity giggity goo.

Good luck David! the force is with you
David BMar 21, 2009, 1:13 am · #491

im not sure if anyone cares about this sohc build
BUT

i told my friend who is pretty good with cars if he can help me get it started ill throw him 50 bucks.

so tomorrow is d day this car is going to make progress or start i am eager to drive this car

seishukuMar 21, 2009, 3:55 am · #492
silvia loveif you got flames coming out of your intake, your timing is too far advanced. i noticed in your picture, your maf is like 3 inches away from the throttle body. NO GOOD. it needs at LEAST 18 inches. that could be your problem. make sure your fuel lines are correct.
Nope, it would still run.
The distance for the MAF is just to reduce turbulance that might affect the MAF reading, which only will cause odd idling or minor power surges.

I use to run my MAF right off the TB, never had a problem. Even if it were, it would still at least start, which it would even with out a MAF.
Phisherman09Mar 21, 2009, 4:22 am · #493
seishukuNope, it would still run.
The distance for the MAF is just to reduce turbulance that might affect the MAF reading, which only will cause odd idling or minor power surges.

I use to run my MAF right off the TB, never had a problem. Even if it were, it would still at least start, which it would even with out a MAF.

indeed. before i had piping for my car i ran it right off the manifold, instead of the intake to the turbo charger. its ran, but idle  kind of wacko. and was kinda laggy when you gave it gas. but thats with a turbo car as well.

and w00t to gettin it running. nothings better than hearing your car run for the first time  

did you ever figure out if your dizzy is out 180 degrees? usually if theres fire coming out of your intake, you got valves opening at the wrong time or spark at the wrong time.
im not real familiar with the KA engine so im not much help lol
David BMar 23, 2009, 3:56 am · #494

corky fired up, but will only stay on under the throttle, having more ig. timing off or some vacum lines missing or something will get figured out soon!

once the engine is running by itself its basically ready 2 go

Phisherman09Mar 23, 2009, 4:00 am · #495
David Bcorky fired up, but will only stay on under the throttle, having more ig. timing off or some vacum lines missing or something will get figured out soon!

once the engine is running by itself its basically ready 2 go

 

sickness!  

wont run at all under idle? check for like a mad vacuum leak, and if your maf sensor is still gangster rigged right onto the manifold, that could be it as well. try unplugging it and see if it runs at idle, if so, thats your problem.

whatd you do to get it running?!
David BMar 23, 2009, 4:05 am · #496
Phisherman09sickness!  

wont run at all under idle? check for like a mad vacuum leak, and if your maf sensor is still gangster rigged right onto the manifold, that could be it as well. try unplugging it and see if it runs at idle, if so, thats your problem.

whatd you do to get it running?!

the maf sensor is still gangster rigged but i need to get a stock intake

we rotated the spark plug wires or something i cant remember i had some people come over and help me

list of things to do

1. get car idling
2.bolt motor mounts down all the way
3.find bolts that will work for the motor to bolt to the mounts
4.stop transmission fluid leak, im leaking from the cable driven speedo sensor, for now ill just use the stock E sensor
5. wire up more sensors, get the tach working. all that etc.
6. weld diff
7. get insurance, and get historic plates
8.drift this weekend! of not, ill skip this event and go next month

ill take pictures of what i have going on brb
SprockCapnMar 23, 2009, 4:15 am · #497

Congrats. That's sweet. Good to hear it's up and runnin.

David BMar 23, 2009, 4:17 am · #498

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missing alot of wires i bet, any usefull tips of which goes where would help thanks!

Phisherman09Mar 23, 2009, 4:22 am · #499

last pic is where the s13 body harness plugs in.. youll find you coolant wire and start signal wire there.

plug next to the maf sensor is the IAT(intake air tempeture) sensor plug.

probably should be something plugged in where the tape is covering by the intake mani in that pic. dunno what tho.

SprockCapnMar 23, 2009, 4:22 am · #500

Dang. That's a killer snorkel of a MAF you got there  

Oh. and it looks like your missin a exhaust manifold nut... Incase you didn't see it