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ok so yea im a total noob when it comes to swaps. i basically need to know what i need to get to swap a SR20 into my S12 which currently has a VG30E in it. Since its so hard to find any parts for that engine i figure a swap would be easier if i knew what i needed to do. :blink:
"There's no replacement for displacement"
-Ls1 swap it.
vg30's are cake to turbo and can take upwards of 500 hp without any beefing up of the internals.
I'm kind of hard pressed on the issue, but you're better off getting a car that was originally a 4 cylinder, as you'll need the cross member anyway!
But, if you do take the vg out of it, just makes my car all the more rare. :D
Don't swap out the vg or you will be forever gay and hated. Se are too rare t just swap ok the vg. Get a ca car instead and swap that out
VG OR DIE!!!!!
Turbo charge the vg. I wouldn't call it easy. I would call it highly rewarding!
Colonel Gustard on 03:29:46 PM / 05-Jun-11Don't swap out the vg or you will be forever gay and hated. Se are too rare t just swap ok the vg. Get a ca car instead and swap that out
Gomesf1 on 06:23:27 PM / 05-Jun-11VG OR DIE!!!!!
^ im with smart guy
^im with guy thats with smart guy
Swapped in a ka-t and havent looked back JUST saying guys.
ka-tgazelle on 02:49:46 PM / 06-Jun-11Swapped in a ka-t and havent looked back JUST saying guys.no one cares about your opinion
if I wanted a ka-t I'd boost my s13, JUST sayin.
Colonel Gustard on 03:00:38 PM / 06-Jun-11no one cares about your opinion
the only reason you swapped out your vg is because it blew, right?
I have a 120,000 mile motor that's had nothing but synthetic since it was new, and it pulls. pulls damn hard! There's nothing like the torque of a V6 (well, maybe a V8...). especially when you're putting out 180tq @ 3k or less.
And like I said, the stock VG will handle 400-500hp without any internal upgrading.
Colonel Gustard on 03:00:38 PM / 06-Jun-11no one cares about your opinion
VG33ERGazelle? on 03:32:39 PM / 06-Jun-11if I wanted a ka-t I'd boost my s13, JUST sayin.
Maxpow on 04:05:57 PM / 06-Jun-11+1
Vg's are great when they are fresh. Me and gustard know.
silverton on 06:17:26 PM / 06-Jun-11the only reason you swapped out your vg is because it blew, right?+1
I have a 120,000 mile motor that's had nothing but synthetic since it was new, and it pulls. pulls damn hard! There's nothing like the torque of a V6 (well, maybe a V8...). especially when you're putting out 180tq @ 3k or less.
And like I said, the stock VG will handle 400-500hp without any internal upgrading.
SIlverton you should read in to the ka a bit more , its a lower rpm torquey motor , making all its power low end , the vg only makes 160 torque.
ummm more than 160tq sir
the KA is a truck motor, through and through. The VG makes 173-182tq.
KA24DE makes 155hp @ 5400rpm and 160tq @ 4400rpm
VG30E makes 160hp @ 5200rpm and 174tq @ 4000rpm (the vg s12 version)
They are only .6 liters of displacement apart, so that's why the torque numbers aren't too far off. To be fair, we should be comparing a vg30de to the ka24de, or the vg30e to the ka24e. But the vg30 isn't as stressed as the power is spread across two extra cylinders.
All in all, VG > KA. I'll leave the four cylinders to stripped down model pickups, and hondas.
silverton on 09:41:37 PM / 06-Jun-11All in all, VG > KA. I'll leave the four cylinders to stripped down model pickups, and hondas.BURN!!
You can leave them to trucks, japanese engine builders now use them for s14 and s13's . THats about the only insult you have, forgetting the ka24e was the only motor to come in the trucks......
didnt the KA24DE come in frontiers? and last time i checked the frontier was indeed a truck
Meh whatever really dont care ill take one over a old gross sound vg any day.
last time I check my VG sounded pretty damn mean...and less ricey than most of the s13s running ka's around my parts.
i might consider this route aswell since my vg is about to crap out on me
Stupid idea....
....but on the bright side of things, that means more SE crossmember will be available for the 84 ca20e cars...
ka-tgazelle on 09:51:23 AM / 07-Jun-11Meh whatever really dont care ill take one over a old gross sound vg any day.The only gross sounding vg I've ever heard had 2 dead cylinders and a fart can. Anyways wasn't MT017 asking about an sr swap?
tommy on 11:17:22 AM / 07-Jun-11Stupid idea....+1
....but on the bright side of things, that means more SE crossmember will be available for the 84 ca20e cars...
ka-tgazelle on 12:21:16 AM / 07-Jun-11The dohc ka never came in a truck look that shit up.
zilvia_brothers on 11:06:11 AM / 07-Jun-11i might consider this route aswell since my vg is about to crap out on meVG's are so cheap and easy to rebuild man, i see youre in LA, ive rebuilt 2 of them with about 140bux, keep that VG in SE
140?
ka-tgazelle on 09:51:23 AM / 07-Jun-11ill take one over a old gross sound vg any day.
These vg30 to 4 cylinder swap threads are always so productive.
DirtyGaze on 04:03:22 PM / 07-Jun-11www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dHWtaV2lwM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foI5qvDKmao&feature=player_embedded
Carbed VG FTW!!
Gomesf1 on 03:38:19 PM / 07-Jun-11140?yup, ebay rings, main and rod bearings, and head gasket set with new head bolts
id take a turboed 4 banger over a n/a vg or turboed v6 just the way i drive and my style permits it more
Colonel Gustard on 03:29:46 PM / 05-Jun-11Swap out the vg and you will be forever loved and revered.
silverton on 09:41:37 PM / 06-Jun-11All in all, VG > KA. I'll leave the four cylinders to stripped down model pickups, and hondas.
jay, you just said the vg is better than the ka...
Might be similar horsepower, but the torque numbers are way better. and I get 20mpg flogging (read: pinned all the time) the shit out of it, and 24mpg doing the speed limit, and 26mpg cruising at 100mph.
The torque numbers arent "SOOO much better" The ka makes 160 torque and the vg makes what you said 174... thats not huge , let aloen mines turboed now making it 270hp (crank) and around 280 crank torque. But i could careless what other people think of my car its mine and i love it.
On the other hand i dont like the vg or sr but I think if you did a rb20 swap it would be much easier.
ok well great... if yall know where i can get parts great. links plz. otherwise i need to know what to get for the SR20 swap. :yes:
silverton on 06:20:55 PM / 07-Jun-11Might be similar horsepower, but the torque numbers are way better. and I get 20mpg flogging (read: pinned all the time) the shit out of it, and 24mpg doing the speed limit, and 26mpg cruising at 100mph.
tommy on 11:17:22 AM / 07-Jun-11Stupid idea....
....but on the bright side of things, that means more SE crossmember will be available for the 84 ca20e cars...
This thread is full of win lol. Anyway you can get parts for the vg from your local parts store I say if your gonna swap the vg go v8 makes more sense to me than downgrading to a 4 cyl.
I can get some parts from my local parts store... Pretty much everything but the starter and alternator (though the one off a KA can be made to work).
vg all the way dudes!